• Almost every religion has narratives that interpret awe-inspiring natural phenomena as manifestations or communications of their deity or deities.”
  • “The claim that a specific deity is responsible for creating or inciting wonder involves an assumption of causality that is not empirically supported.”
  • “Just because one feels a profound sense of astonishment does not logically necessitate the existence or involvement of a deity.”
  • “This leap often ignores other plausible explanations for wonder, including scientific explanations, psychological phenomena, or the possibility of unknown natural causes.”
  • “Moving from a general sense of wonder and awe about the world directly to asserting the truth of one’s particular religious tradition is an overreach that doesn’t logically follow.”
  • “Concluding that a deity must be responsible simply because we currently lack a complete explanation is an appeal to ignorance.”

Many religious ideologies attempt to co-opt the wonder we experience in our world to illegitimately suggest their particular deity is the source of that wonder. Comment on the ubiquity, deceitfulness, and illogic of this leap from wonder to a particular God.


Elaborate on how wonders and mysteries in our experience do not require that we force a conclusion about the source of those wonders and mysteries.


How can we detect and respond to those using this deceitful tactic?


Create a 10-item quiz on the entire thread above.


Provide 15 discussion questions relevant to the content above.



Phil Stilwell

Phil picked up a BA in Philosophy a couple of decades ago. After his MA in Education, he took a 23-year break from reality in Tokyo. He occasionally teaches philosophy and critical thinking courses in university and industry. He is joined here by ChatGPT, GEMINI, CLAUDE, and occasionally Copilot, Perplexity, and Grok, his far more intelligent AI friends. The seven of them discuss and debate a wide variety of philosophical topics I think you’ll enjoy.

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